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I needed a nice little warmup project, maybe I'm finally getting productive=
away from my desktop. It's a little thing I call Sally's Reader. Not a big=
deal. Here's the writeup. And here's the app. #

=09APIs of the 2020's#
=09
=09Interesting thread by Evan Prodromou, one of the originators of Activity=
Pub. He says basically everyone should get behind it and stop inventing new=
formats and protocols for the federated social web. #
=09Without any judgment, it seems to me that ActivityPub should have starte=
d with RSS 2.0, building whatever new features they needed on top of it. Bu=
t they didn't. I don't know why. We were going down that path, but then one=
day I saw that all the people I was collaborating with were meeting with G=
oogle and out of that came a completely incompatible protocol, which I beli=
eve became ActivityPub. Not sure, because they seemed more interested in re=
inventing what already worked than trying to build as much interop as possi=
ble. #
=09I really mean "no judgment" -- because this seems to happen in tech all =
the time. It's the knee-jerk reaction. People wanting to make a name for th=
emselves, don't have a new idea, so they pretend that what already exists d=
oesn't. Let the journalists sort it out. #
=09Anyway, I think it's inevitable that there will be more protocols. There=
already are. So what will be needed is the analog of the internet, which b=
ridged the differences between incompatible networks. I think at this point=
that's the best we can hope for. And in that spirit I offer the MetaWeblog=
API which did that for blogs. Maybe for once we won't have to start over f=
rom scratch. I doubt it, but hope is still possible. #
=09BTW, before you pat me on the head and thank me for "fighting the good f=
ight" (which I hear as "loser") remember this one motto: You can fake carin=
g but you can't fake showing up. Put some skin in the game. You've been sit=
ting on the sidelines your whole life. If you think we can make the new net=
work useful and fair and learn from our mistakes and experience, get in the=
middle. There's no point accumulating capital if you never spend it. Now i=
s a good time to get involved. #
=09

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=09=09=09=09
=09=09=09=09=09Linkblog items for the day.It=E2=80=99s Time to Let Cyclists=
Use Crosswalks. motherjones.com
Ta-Nehisi Coates attends school board meeting to back teacher told to stop =
using his book on racism. apnews.com

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<div class=3D"divSingularItem" data-type=3D"outline" data-flInCalendar=3D"t=
rue"><a name=3D"a160114"></a>I needed a nice little warmup project, maybe I=
'm finally getting productive away from my desktop. It's a little thing I c=
all Sally's Reader. Not a big deal. Here's the <a href=3D"https://github.co=
m/scripting/Scripting-News/issues/264">writeup</a>. And here's <a href=3D"h=
ttp://scripting.com/code/sallyreader/">the app</a>. <span class=3D"spPermaL=
ink"><a href=3D"http://scripting.com/2023/07/20.html#a160114" title=3D"Dire=
ct link to this item.">#</a></span></div>
<div class=3D"divTitledItem">
=09<div class=3D"divTitle"><a name=3D"a132627"></a><a href=3D"http://script=
ing.com/2023/07/20/132627.html"><span class=3D"spTitleLink">APIs of the 202=
0's</span></a><span class=3D"spPermaLink"><a href=3D"http://scripting.com/2=
023/07/20/132627.html" title=3D"Direct link to this item.">#</a></span></di=
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mFreshener.png" border=3D"0" style=3D"float: right; padding-left: 25px; pad=
ding-bottom: 10px; padding-top: 10px; padding-right: 15px;">Interesting <a =
href=3D"https://prodromou.pub/@evan/110045336289311841">thread</a> by <a hr=
ef=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Prodromou">Evan Prodromou</a>, one=
of the originators of <a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub=
">ActivityPub</a>. He says basically everyone should get behind it and stop=
inventing new formats and protocols for the federated social web. <span cl=
ass=3D"spPermaLink"><a href=3D"http://scripting.com/2023/07/20/132627.html#=
a110608" title=3D"Direct link to this item." style=3D"text-decoration: none=
; margin-left: .1em; color: purple;" >#</a></span></div>
=09<div class=3D"divPgf" data-flInCalendar=3D"true"><a name=3D"a132703"></a=
>Without any judgment, it seems to me that ActivityPub should have started =
with RSS 2.0, building whatever new features they needed on top of it. But =
they didn't. I don't know why. We were going down that path, but then one d=
ay I saw that all the people I was collaborating with were meeting with Goo=
gle and out of that came a completely incompatible protocol, which I believ=
e became ActivityPub. Not sure, because they seemed more interested in rein=
venting what already worked than trying to build as much <a href=3D"http://=
scripting.com/2021/12/16/153331.html?title=3DmyProductIsInterop">interop</a=
> as possible. <span class=3D"spPermaLink"><a href=3D"http://scripting.com/=
2023/07/20/132627.html#a132703" title=3D"Direct link to this item." style=
=3D"text-decoration: none; margin-left: .1em; color: purple;" >#</a></span>=
</div>
=09<div class=3D"divPgf" data-flInCalendar=3D"true"><a name=3D"a133804"></a=
>I really mean "no judgment" -- because this seems to happen in tech all th=
e time. It's the knee-jerk reaction. People wanting to make a name for them=
selves, don't have a new idea, so they pretend that what already exists doe=
sn't. Let the <a href=3D"http://scripting.com/2023/07/19.html">journalists<=
/a> sort it out. <span class=3D"spPermaLink"><a href=3D"http://scripting.co=
m/2023/07/20/132627.html#a133804" title=3D"Direct link to this item." style=
=3D"text-decoration: none; margin-left: .1em; color: purple;" >#</a></span>=
</div>
=09<div class=3D"divPgf" data-flInCalendar=3D"true"><a name=3D"a132734"></a=
>Anyway, I think it's inevitable that there will be more protocols. There a=
lready are. So what will be needed is the <a href=3D"http://scripting.com/2=
023/05/04/142200.html">analog of the internet</a>, which bridged the differ=
ences between incompatible networks. I think at this point that's the best =
we can hope for. And in that spirit I offer the <a href=3D"http://xmlrpc.co=
m/metaweblog">MetaWeblog API</a> which did that for blogs. Maybe for once w=
e won't have to start over from scratch. I doubt it, but hope is still poss=
ible. <span class=3D"spPermaLink"><a href=3D"http://scripting.com/2023/07/2=
0/132627.html#a132734" title=3D"Direct link to this item." style=3D"text-de=
coration: none; margin-left: .1em; color: purple;" >#</a></span></div>
=09<div class=3D"divPgf" data-type=3D"outline" data-flInCalendar=3D"true"><=
a name=3D"a111507"></a>BTW, before you pat me on the head and thank me for =
"fighting the good fight" (which I hear as "loser") remember this one motto=
: You can fake caring but you can't fake showing up. Put some skin in the g=
ame. You've been sitting on the sidelines your whole life. If you think we =
can make the new network useful and fair and learn from our mistakes and ex=
perience, get in the middle. There's no point accumulating capital if you n=
ever spend it. Now is a good time to get involved. <span class=3D"spPermaLi=
nk"><a href=3D"http://scripting.com/2023/07/20/132627.html#a111507" title=
=3D"Direct link to this item." style=3D"text-decoration: none; margin-left:=
.1em; color: purple;" >#</a></span></div>
=09</ul>

=09</div>

=09=09=09=09<div class=3D"divLinkblog">
=09=09=09=09=09<h4>Linkblog items for the day.</h4><div class=3D"divLinkblo=
gItem">It=E2=80=99s Time to Let Cyclists Use Crosswalks. <a href=3D"https:/=
/www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/07/crosswalk-biking-sidewalk-pedestrian-=
cycling/">motherjones.com</a></div>
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